The two boys charged following the fatal stabbing of 57-year-old Arun Kumar won't be granted bail.
A 12-year-old boy has been charged with aggravated robbery, and a 13-year-old charged with murder.
Local business owners in the area have banded together and called for a larger police presence on the streets in Henderson.
However, fire alarm maintenance officer, Eilene says that for the last year, there's been a strong police presence on the streets of Henderson.
They appeared in the Waitākere District Court today, and it's the first chance the families of both boys and members of the Kumar family have seen them since the horrific incident early yesterday morning.